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    I now have 20 PSI difference in my cylinders. I give him (AMI certified PWC Tech) my PWC to clean the fuel tank and clean the carbs he gave it back to me and said he will warrenty all of his work and I brought it back to him the next day with the same bog problem again. He told me that it is impossible to clean all of the dirty and water in the fuel tank without taking out the motor and pulling out the fuel tank. I ask him point blank what should I do. He said "Run it and and clean your fuel filter every 30 minutes untill all of the dirt and water is drained out of your fuel filter". I cranked it and after 2 minutes at idle speed it died. Check compression and noticed 20 psi difference in cylinders and noticed some water shooting out of cylinders? How did this happen? Should I sue him and have him pay me for a new motor? I gave $700 this summer for a fuel & carb cleaning and a new starter and he give me a blown motor.

    Now $3000 later and now new motor needed
    Last edited by carolinadocks; 09-20-2005, 09:53 PM.

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    Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

    he sounds like a moron yes people like that should be takin to court
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    • #3
      Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

      Question 2. Can a fuel tank be cleaned enough to prevent motor damanged without pulling out fuel tank

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      • #4
        Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

        not on the XPL but it sounds like you need to pull the engine anyhow , you can pull it compleat carbs and exhust on and put it back that way { makes putting the pipe on so much easyer . its an easy job i can have the XPL engine out in about 15 to 20 min . if your hands on you should be able to do it in an hr or so if you get a service manual
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        • #5
          Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

          Question 2 water can only get into fuel filter from Fuel tank? besides bad gas or gas cans or no gas cap on gas tank. how could water get into gas tank

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          • #6
            Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

            Originally posted by carolinadocks
            AWA certified PWC Tech
            What the heck is an AWA certifed PWC tech??? To the best of my knowledge, AWA is a rider's group that does not certify tech's. They have Supporting Dealers, but they are not certifying the tech's.. here's the official website...http://www.awahq.org/

            This guy seems to be blowing smoke up your A$$ on his abilities!!!!!!

            Sue him!
            John Kubiak
            Powersports Technical Training Professional
            Las Vegas, Nevada
            Sea-Doo Tech 13736
            PWC Tech since 1988 (22 years)
            PowerSports since 1976 (34 years)
            NEVER BUY TIRES AT A "BLOW-OUT" SALE
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            • #7
              Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

              Wait a minute!

              Water shoots out of the motor?

              That did not get there from the fuel tank.

              How did water get into the inside of the motor?

              Lift the seat, remove the big black rubber plug in the deck. Remove the fuel baffel. Clean out the gas tank. No need to pull a motor.

              Are you positive that your motor did not have lower compression in one clyinder before you gave it to him? Did you test it yourself before giving it to him?

              He probably said MMI certified.
              Bill O'Neal <br>
              WCM
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              • #8
                Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                I am 100% sure my damanged is due to the water in my motor because I can see some of it shoot out when I crank the motor . The good cyl shoots out air the bad one shoots out which looks like small amounts of black oil. I lost 20 PSI on the other Cyc. Would that much water get in my motor through the fuel tank and Fuel filter. The AMI tech test rides all of his PWC's and told me when he gave me the XPL back to me it wasnt running right. Did he hot dog my xpl on the lake? My compression was ok in July I havent checked since. How could that much water get in my XPL motor
                Last edited by carolinadocks; 09-20-2005, 09:52 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                  He probably said MMI certified
                  I taught at MMI from May 2002 until Decmber 2004, and the school was adamant about the fact that they Do Not Certify any technicians, as this must be done by the OEM technical training folks.

                  If this "alleged PWC repair person" test rides all of his PWC's and told you when he gave the XPL back to you that it wasnt running right; You should have DEMANDED further explanation right there and then!

                  Everything after that comment is a moot point, your ski was broken then!
                  John Kubiak
                  Powersports Technical Training Professional
                  Las Vegas, Nevada
                  Sea-Doo Tech 13736
                  PWC Tech since 1988 (22 years)
                  PowerSports since 1976 (34 years)
                  NEVER BUY TIRES AT A "BLOW-OUT" SALE
                  Please do not use Private Messaging, use the forums.

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                  • #10
                    Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                    Sorry the Guy is a AMI Graduate. Can water in fuel tank and Fuel filter cause all of that water in the motor?

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                    • #11
                      Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                      The ski had to get water in it. Three possible ways. One, someone turned the water on before turning on the motor or shutting the motor off and then the water. Second, the ski was flipped and it injested water. Third, your pipe is leaking water into the motor.
                      I live in Charleston if you need some help.
                      SHOOTER

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                      • #12
                        Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                        Originally posted by Bill O'Neal2
                        Wait a minute!

                        Water shoots out of the motor?

                        That did not get there from the fuel tank.

                        How did water get into the inside of the motor?

                        Lift the seat, remove the big black rubber plug in the deck. Remove the fuel baffel. Clean out the gas tank. No need to pull a motor.

                        Are you positive that your motor did not have lower compression in one clyinder before you gave it to him? Did you test it yourself before giving it to him?

                        He probably said MMI certified.
                        clean the tank from that little hole ? if he droped 20 PSI on one cyl he might as well pull the engine rebuild it then pull the tank and get it really clean .upside down with a water hose gets all the dirt out then let it dry . PITA ya but its 100% clean
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                        • #13
                          Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                          When water shoots out of a sparkplug hole, it is not black and oily. It is usually brownish liquid water.
                          You could have a needle valve stuck open in the carbureator, flooding your motor with fuel.
                          No way water entered the motor through the fuel system.
                          Bill O'Neal <br>
                          WCM
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                          • #14
                            Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                            I now got the local seadoo delaership giving me the cost of a new top end rebuilt. It was Water damaged and they said there was too much water in the motor from it come in from the fuel tank. So I will send the old shop my repair bill since when I dropped of the xpl to him I had no motor damanage from water. If the shop does not pay, what claim or proof do I need to present to the local small claims court.

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                            • #15
                              Re: $3000 later XPL still not running Part II

                              Originally posted by carolinadocks
                              I now got the local seadoo delaership giving me the cost of a new top end rebuilt. It was Water damaged and they said there was too much water in the motor from it come in from the fuel tank. So I will send the old shop my repair bill since when I dropped of the xpl to him I had no motor damanage from water. If the shop does not pay, what claim or proof do I need to present to the local small claims court.
                              If there was enough water in the fuel to cause top end damage, the rod bearings are toast..also if there was that much water in the fuel, why is the damage limited to one cylinder???...you need a new shortblock, not a partial repair that is going to blow up again in a short period of time.
                              John Kubiak
                              Powersports Technical Training Professional
                              Las Vegas, Nevada
                              Sea-Doo Tech 13736
                              PWC Tech since 1988 (22 years)
                              PowerSports since 1976 (34 years)
                              NEVER BUY TIRES AT A "BLOW-OUT" SALE
                              Please do not use Private Messaging, use the forums.

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