96 WaveRaider handling

[Bustoff]

What could I do to make it handle a little better???

I mean,it's a good running/riding unit,it just could use a wee bit of help in the handling department;especialy in rough water..

Bustoff...

[Wet Wolf]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

the Raider hull was Yamahas first high-speed flatwaterhull. It doesn't do very well in rough water. You can go into the same turn at the same speed in the same water conditions with the same body positioning and come out of the turn different every time. You can try dropping the stocks sponsons down as low as they can go. That will help with the tracking in smooth water , but it will make the hll twitch at high speed in rough water.

[george]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Are the 96 sponsons adjustable? (95s are not, but I know the 96's are different..).

[BULLRAIDER]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

No the 95/96 are not adjustable,you can slot them but it wont work very well, you need an aftermarket set, Riva, Beach House, Worx. these will improve the handling, but it will never be perfect,ride plate and intake grate make a difference on our skis also...

[davidlem]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Hey its always good to see Bullraider around. No the sponsons aren't adjustable on my 96 1100. I put on a ProTec ride plate and it makes a big difference in turning and porpoising (i call it 'headbanging'). Used to be while in a turn above 40mph the ski would just zig when you wanted to zag and you were in for a wild ride. Now with the ride plate (and extended nozzle) it slides further out (so your turn is wider than you intended) but it doesn't hook and make you tumble. I think aftermarket sponsons would fix the wide turning. Now I have an R&D intake grate on the way that should help turning speed (stock grate drops a couple mph while turning) and feeding the pump in chop.

[Bustoff]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Sounds like the plan!!!

[Bustoff]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

But wait....


When you say ride plate,are you saying to relace the whole piece or add an extension???

[skraggy]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Replace the whole ride plate with a one that is longer than the one that came stock on the ski.Usually any aftermarket rideplate will be longer,but op for a brand that you have heard good things about.They are fairly inexpensive.I run an extended pro-tek on my blaster,and it made a world of difference in ride.Along with a Riva p/u grate.

You can get them at your dealer,or seatch e-bay for a better deal.

NOTE:But a new one...not used.

[Mpeavler1]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Have an R&D rideplate I will sell ya for 30.00 plus shipping email me for pics

Mike P

Mpeavler@cfl.rr.com

It's the same one off a 701 raider I belive....someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Mike p

[davidlem]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Replace the whole ride plate with a one that is longer than the one that came stock on the ski.Usually any aftermarket rideplate will be longer,but op for a brand that you have heard good things about.They are fairly inexpensive.I run an extended pro-tek on my blaster,and it made a world of difference in ride.Along with a Riva p/u grate.

You can get them at your dealer,or seatch e-bay for a better deal.

NOTE:But a new one...not used.

skraggy, if the longer plate is for rough water what the heck is the short plate for

[davidlem]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Have an R&D rideplate I will sell ya for 30.00 plus shipping email me for pics

Mike P

Mpeavler@cfl.rr.com

It's the same one off a 701 raider I belive....someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Mike p

According to R&D here the 701/760/1100 shared plates. However, I believe R&D only offers a plate w/o speedo mount whereas the ProTec has the speedo mount. I'm just looking at the R&D website images and comparing to my ride plate.

[george]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

hello, I just had mine(95) out for the first time this season. I bought it
in the fall and only got a few rides in, so I had to go ride to think
about whats wrong. The main problem I see is in the steering response.
so I'm thinking nozzle upgrade first. Any rec? And 'must' plate+nozzle
be swapped together? I'm not being cheap, I just like to do one thing
at a time to see the effect.

mike: If bustoff passes I might be interested in that plate.
(I have no speedo anyway).

[davidlem]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

It's easy to do ride plate and nozzle together because removing the ride plate makes nozzle installation a lot easier. There's a bolt under the nozzle that is difficult to back-out because any tool you use will contact the top of the ride plate. Ride plate is just 6 bolts, and upgrading it will improve many aspects of handling - it did for me.

Now, could someone explain the reason for the spacers under the front of the ride plate? I don't recall seeing anything but bolts when I swapped to the ProTec plate.

[BULLRAIDER]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Hello ;;
David the short ride plate is for us speed freaks, it will increase the top speed only because of less dragging behind you in the water (parasitic drag).
The washers can change the handling of the ski, when the washers are installed in the correct spot, it will often raise the speed of the ski, while lifting the hull for less wetted surface area, but most times at the price of porposing if too many are installed, you have to find the sweet spot.
George , changing things one at a time is also good, that way you really know what makes a difference, to YOU...some people feel different about the way something acts on there ski when it comes to handling, I really prefer the extended nozzle, it turns ..WAY much sharper than with out it, but the amount of force required to turn is increased slightly, but that never hurt any one, try one out, I also have the R/D ride plate ..mine has the speedo option it is for sale, as well as a protec .."shorty" rideplate ..and the 701 Raider is a 4 bolt ,,, where the 1100 is a 6 bolt...... e-mail me direct for pictures
Hello , Dave .. Hello Mike, hope all is well.

[Mpeavler1]

Re: 96 WaveRaider handling

Hello ;;
David the short ride plate is for us speed freaks, it will increase the top speed only because of less dragging behind you in the water (parasitic drag).
The washers can change the handling of the ski, when the washers are installed in the correct spot, it will often raise the speed of the ski, while lifting the hull for less wetted surface area, but most times at the price of porposing if too many are installed, you have to find the sweet spot.
George , changing things one at a time is also good, that way you really know what makes a difference, to YOU...some people feel different about the way something acts on there ski when it comes to handling, I really prefer the extended nozzle, it turns ..WAY much sharper than with out it, but the amount of force required to turn is increased slightly, but that never hurt any one, try one out, I also have the R/D ride plate ..mine has the speedo option it is for sale, as well as a protec .."shorty" rideplate ..and the 701 Raider is a 4 bolt ,,, where the 1100 is a 6 bolt...... e-mail me direct for pictures
Hello , Dave .. Hello Mike, hope all is well.

Heya Bull how are ya man? My 701 is coming together....should be running if Riva would get my head done.../sigh

Mike